Mysterious Universe

No, the object in the first video isn’t moving away from the earth’s gravitational pull. The camera is zooming in and in so doing it gives the appearance that the object is moving. It might just be a satellite or junk.

But, the small dot of an object in the second video is traveling at an angle away from earth’s gravitational pull. In fact, it continues to travel into deep space.

Martin Stubbs deserves a lot of credit. His dedication is awesome.

Joy Said:

“Once you can recreate a scene in a lab.. yeah, that’s pretty much the end of it. ”

No, all that shows is that you can make something that looks like something else.

A lot of debunkers try to show that something is something else by faking a photo or whatever. But all that ever really proves is that they can recreate something that looks like something else. It does not explain what the original video was.

Chances are the original video was space junk, but you can’t prove that be making a new video, in a lab or otherwise.

very interesting. the object in the first video seems to move away from the earth's gravitational pull; can not be just junk.

I don't know… These space videos lost a lot of value for me once I saw the Discovery show that demonstrated the famous disk shaped ufo scenes were nothing more than particles that were too close to the camera's lens. Once you can recreate a scene in a lab.. yeah, that's pretty much the end of it.
I think the primary problem is the quality of the video and the fact that the sheer scale of whats being viewed (you know, that big chunk o' earth) creates weird depth perception illusions… Still interesting to see though!

I wonder what would happen if NASA was confronted with this and had no where to run or weasel out? What would they do if back into a corner and had to say something? and I don't mean that “this is space junk” junk. Please just tell people the truth already, it's not like we don't know something is going on.

I don’t think people should “confused” and frustrated about these videos. And, then give up.

Of course, enthusiasts want to exaggerate the claims that these unknowns are UFOs and skeptics work hard attempting to debunk any speculation they’re extraterrestrial or intelligently controlled or whatever (a lot of them, in fact, are paid to do just that). Most of the rest of us are trying to find a sort of middle ground.

But, it is difficult to find an explanation for an object traveling opposite of earth’s gravitational pull as depicted by the small object in the second video. That is, if it wasn’t controlled in some way by some entity or thing.

Dude, there is nothing to confront… the truth is that there are 3000 satellites orbiting around the earth, and thousands of pieces of debris, old satellites, etc. All I see in the video is something shiny, probably metallic, reflecting the sun's rays, or glowing because it's re-entering the earth's atmosphere.

If you go to his youtube channel, you can see the rest of his “UFO” videos. None of them prove anything, let alone the existence of intelligent extra-terrestrials visiting Earth, as this person claims. It does show, however, that he has a very overactive imagination.

Shiny objects in orbit =/= extra-terrestrial spaceships (or extra-temporal or extra-dimentional, like this guy claims at one point).

Why I think this is most likely space junk: http://bit.ly/OKLCk

I didn't see anything solid, so to speak. With so much condensation it is easy to believe that is exactly what these “objects” are.

They aren't changing direction, accelerating or anything. A steady, constant motion like one would expect in space.

When we see one of those morphing UFO's up close or an object large enough to dock with the station…then we'll have a smoking gun.

“claims that these unknowns are UFOs:

Ummm, a UFO is an unknown object. Any object your can't identify is a UFO. We cannot jump to conclusions that UFOs are space craft from other planets. I believe people DO see objects that are not made by humans, but we still don't know what they are, or where they come from. I have seen these myself. We also know nothing about the entities people report having contact with. The simplistic answer is they are “aliens” from another planet somewhere. The real answer is probably something much stranger than that. We have stories of humans interacting with non human entities for as long as we have been here. These used to be “little people” or “fairies” or “angles” or “demons” or whatever. They have abducted people way back in our history. It makes little sense for “aliens” to be doing this, so it's probably something else that we don't understand that makes itself look like aliens, or that's just the way we perceive them.

People see UFOs all the time. There are many good sightings my multiple people… look at the recent case in China during the eclipse. And we do have good photos and video. So why no photos of the grays? That will likely never happen. If they don't want to be photographed, they never will be. IF we can even photograph them in the first place. Much the same with ghosts.

Something is going on, that's for sure. We don't need a “smoking gun” because the evedance is overwhelming that people are seeing things in the skies. I mean if fifty people came to your home and told you there is an elephant on the front lawn, would you need them to show you a photo to believe them?

Problem is, we don't understand what is going on, and we have been looking at the wrong explanation of it. So we might not see UFOs in space around our planet because they don't need to do that. Observations show they can just appear and vanish. That said, they have been tracked coming in from space quite regularly.

Nothing conclusive here. Although it looks pretty neat!

That kind of debunking used to hold a lot of weight. There are reasons for that too. The reasons being that 30 years ago or so if someone saw an UFO and video taped it, one of their major claims was that “it must be an alien craft because nothing else can make this effect/occurance”.

Now, anyone can get a very realistic looking UFO made in no time at all on 3D max or lightwave. It makes “debunking” things a lot less meaningful because almost anyone can make these effects!

…wish objects weren't always 10+ miles away. Why can't they cruise past the portals for us?

I think until we can conclusively prove that these slow straightforward moving dots are not condensation on the camera lens, then we can’t label any of it conclusive (smoking gun). Only probably @5% of the time do these dots, beads, etc. ever change speed or direction and there are probable explainations for that 5% too. I’m not saying there are no UFO’s, alien spacecarft, etc. I’m just saying that usually the most simple explaination is the correct explaination. Make a camera lens that is condensation proof, then these clips would be much more convincing!