Mysterious Universe

Ok, as much as I adore you guys, for you seem to have much the same
stance on the “paranormal” as I do, which is something odd is going on
lets look at it , though we may approach it from different angles;

however, “Science is like religion.” … um, in a word, “NO.” *face palm*

Let me see if I explain.
Science make its decisions based on the scientific consequences of the time. Basically many people who have studied “X” for the majority of their adult
lives have said, “Yes, this is more or less how “X” works, and we can
demonstrate this because of many, many, many tests.” and as soon as,
many, many, many tests show that neutrino beams can travel as faster then life, those many people will start to change their minds, and start to figure out new equations, and begin to understand what the ramifications of a neutrino beam going ever so faster then light.

Religion; Galileo, “Um, mister Pope, we have proof the Earth goes around the sun, and not the sun going around the Earth.” Pope, “Kill him.” Galileo, “No, no, I was joking, the sun goes around the Earth.” Pope, “Ok, just lock him up, and the sun goes around the Earth”

You notice a little bit of a difference there.

Look I am not saying that there are not scientists that are dogmatic, dogma is part of human nature, but the vast majority of scientists are not dogmatic. Scientists love a mystery and a neutrino beam going faster then light is a wonderful mystery. Science is perpetually questioning.
The reason scientists do not look at the paranormal, and I am hypothesizing here, is because they see little proof for how say reincarnation could work, and again hypothesizing do not want the ridicule for the public, and their colleagues.
Believe me I would love nothing more the numerous in depth studies done on any paranormal event, but until the woo-woo dies off it aint going to happen. >_<

Cheers for this episode. Aaron – I feel compelled to clarify the role of science in society (not a scientist myself, but a massive fan of it). While it is true that it is taught and seen as an area of discourse which presents a list of facts we learn by rote, this is actually fallacious. Science is a method of discovery – not a list of facts. You’ll be surprised to find that the people most ready to accept their ideas are wrong are, in fact, scientists. Re: the neutrino story – six months of fact-checking (or any length of time dedicated to checking and re-checking) is vital precisely because the media present science as an area where people dispense facts as though “this is what is” rather than “this is what we’ve discovered, and given this new data, we must revise our models”.

Science is constantly being revised, but only progresses if the data is scrutinized from every conceivable angle. If an anomaly is published as soon as it is found, then it’s discovered that the people who found it were in error, the perception of science as trustworthy suffers, and in this day and age, where a large anti-science movement is mobilized (everything from the denial of climate change, to evolution and even the efficacy of vaccines) scientists need to be extra sure that what they’ve discovered is in fact supported by all available evidence.

This is why peer-review exists. New data needs to be seen by people who have not done the research; many opinions, tests, angles have to be considered before it is published in the mainstream media and only then can it be accepted. If it fails this rigorous gauntlet of testing, skepticism, poking and prodding, then it is discarded. It must explain all previous observations in a better way – not just some cherry-picked facts which support it.

This may indeed revised physics as we know it, but all errors and possibilities need to be considered, reviewed and scrutinized before this happens.

Keep up the great work on the show. Still love listening to you guys!

Very excited to listen to this episode. episode 611 was awesome. I don’t see it on the site but it was a very intriguing and creepy episode. This is definitely my favorite podcast on itunes. It makes me very open to a lot of topics I’ve previously thought were a bunch of B.S, it also makes the work day fly by. Huge fan

Regards,
AVD

I love that you actually called up the number on that business card! Really entertaining episode guys! I love how the Doolagarl draws similarities to the Bongo radio call as that was a really creepy segment that I forgot about Awesome show guys keep up the good work!

P.S. Does anyone remember which episode the Bongo story was on? I just want to listen to it again

I’m not a Plus member, so I don’t really know much about the H. Fugar business, but I just gotta say…

LOL.  This is genius.

By the way they’ve debunked Spontaneous Combustion already. I can’t remember where it was done (saw a program on it) but they took a pig carcass, wrapped it in clothing and started it on fire. Due to the fats in the flesh boiling into parts of the clothing the pig burned like a candle & wick would, burning everything in a curtain location and not spreading. The fats caused the fire to be intense in that location only burning through to more moist meats that didn’t allow the fire to go any further. In most cases the people were smokers.

Neutrino speed has been measured over vastly greater distances from supernovas so these results obviously seem strange.

I think the MU missed a few important points here.
1) They dont *know* that the result is not because of error.
2) The size of the difference is important when considering measuring error.

From what I hear the distance measurements are more accurate than the margin of error but there are other timing errors that could easily account for the speed.

Its fine to say that we should change our models of the universe when they dont hold up to observations but:
1) you need to actually show that the model is broken through repeated studies; and
2) you need a better model; for example relativity breaks down in some places like black holes but we gain alot of practical insight by using upto the point where it fails.