Aug 28, 2022 I Nick Redfern

If There Really Are Dead Aliens Hidden "On Ice" Where Might We Find Them?

It's a fact that I'm not someone who believes there are dead aliens hidden at secure, military and government facilities. For example, I've written two books on Roswell on why the legendary 1947 case had nothing to do with aliens. But, if someone says to me they know there are extraterrestrial corpses held away, possibly deep underground, I'll definitely listen to what they have to say. And, if someone wants my views on the "dead aliens" issue, I'll certainly have a look at it. And, that's exactly what I'm going to do today. Let's begin with one of the most secure facilities in the United States: the Dugway Proving Ground, Utah. Nineteen-eighty-nine was also notable, in relation to Area 51, for another reason of incredible proportions: Was there a secret transfer, in 1989, of an unknown number of alien bodies from Area 51 to the ultra-secret Utah-based Dugway Proving Ground? That’s the claim of a man named “Mitchell Baxter,” who worked on a tunneling program at Dugway in the early 1990s.

(Nick Redfern) Utah, home to the Dugway Proving Ground. You won't get any closer.

According to Baxter, a colleague who also worked on that same program to expand certain underground facilities at Dugway shared with Baxter what he knew, having worked on similar tunneling and excavating projects at Area 51. While the data was scant, Baxter’s informant claimed that a number of alien corpses were transferred to Dugway, from Area 51, for a very serious and disturbing reason. Several technicians involved in the autopsy of a number of dead aliens recovered from a UFO crash somewhere near the fringes of Area 51, at some point in 1989, were killed by what was suspected of being a deadly, fast-acting alien virus (shades of one of the stories told to John, at Area 51, in the early 1970s). The lab in which the autopsies occurred was quickly locked-down, and the bodies transferred to Dugway, which was in a far better position to handle matters relative to viruses and biological warfare.

It should be noted that the Dugway Proving Ground is just as secret and impenetrable as Area 51 – albeit for what are largely very different reasons. The claims of alien bodies held at the facility aside, of course. Before we get to the matter of those alleged ETs at Dugway – which may well have been transferred there from Area 51 – let’s take a look at the history and origins of the base. It was largely the terrible events which went down at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii on December 7, 1941 which dictated the necessity for the construction of a facility along the lines of the Dugway Proving Ground. The attack, which demonstrated the horrific extent to which the United States was vulnerable to an out of the blue assault from the skies, not only led the U.S. to enter the war (which had been raging since September 1939), but also led the U.S. Government to consider the possibility that the country might not just be hit by another Pearl Harbor, but possibly also attacks using chemical and biological warfare – issues that the U.S. knew the Japanese were secretly working on. 

It was a combined result of Pearl Harbor and the legitimate fears that the Japanese might attack the U.S. with chemicals and deadly viruses which led the then President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, on February 6, 1942, to hand over no less than 126,000 acres of the Utah desert to the government, specifically the military. Such was the need for a dedicated facility to be constructed, in less than a week work began to construct a rudimentary facility that could significantly help to guard the country and the American people. Work officially began on March 1, 1942. Much of the early work was focused on determining how best to combat potential attacks of the chemical variety. Research into biological warfare largely began in 1943. By 1945, even more land had been grabbed by the government. In addition, Utah’s Wendover Bombing Range was handed over to Dugway, thus increasing its size even more. Then, when the hostilities with the Axis powers came to an end, the Dugway Proving Ground essentially joined forces with the Desert Chemical Depot, and the Dugway Desert Command came into being.

At the turn of the 1950s, close to 300,000 more acres were added to the installation – making it a truly huge base, and one which, just like Area 51, was heavily guarded and largely shrouded in secrecy, in terms of its work, which went forward in leaps and bounds. There was a change in the late 1960s, specifically in 1968. That was the year in which the Fort Douglas-based Deseret Test Center and the Dugway Proving Ground came together. Then, in 1973, there was yet another change for the base: it was brought into TECOM, the U.S. Army Test & Evaluation Command. There was another change in 1999, when TECOM was reorganized as the Developmental Test Command. Today, the Dugway Proving Ground covers a massive 800,000 acres. The Public Affairs Office of the DPG states: “In addition to chemical and biological defensive testing, environmental characterization, and remediation technology testing Dugway is the Defense Department’s leader in testing battlefield smokes and obscurants. Testing now includes further determining the reliability and survivability of all types of military equipment in a chemical or biological environment.” All of which brings us to another aspect of the matter of the alleged extraterrestrial bodies held at the Dugway Proving Ground from 1989 onward, having previously been reportedly held at Area 51. 

The second story revolves around a Colonel George Weinbrenner, who was the Chief of the Foreign Technology Division (FTD) at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Air Materiel Command (AMC), Dayton, Ohio, for a period of seven years during the 1960s and 1970s. On several occasions, Weinbrenner made brief allusions to the fact that “we have five aliens in Utah.” Those same allusions were made to close friends and family. Although, he would not expand on this issue. But why, exactly, might such bodies have been transferred to Dugway? Researcher Tony Bragalia offers a viable and logical explanation:

(Nick Redfern) Dead aliens hidden away?

“Dugway serves as the central source for information on biological material issues for all Commanders-in-Chief and Services. For over six decades they have acted as this source. Though there are other military installations in Utah, Dugway is (as a Deseret Morning News reporter once said) “the single most secretive site in all of Utah. Its isolated physical location is uniquely suited for such ‘alien containment.’ Dugway is home to the most advanced facilities in the world designed for the containment, storage and preservation of highly exotic biological material.” Indeed, if the story is true, then none could deny that the remains of extraterrestrial corpses and body-parts would equate to “highly exotic biological material.” In that sense, we may very well be seeing a situation in which there is a secret sharing of materials of the alien variety between senior personnel at Area 51 and their counterparts at the Dugway Proving Ground.

Now, onto NORAD: the North American Aerospace Defense Command. Wikipedia notes: "North American Aerospace Defense Command...known until March 1981 as the North American Air Defense Command, is a combined organization of the United States and Canada that provides aerospace warning, air sovereignty, and protection for Northern America.Headquarters for NORAD and the NORAD/United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) center are located at Peterson Air Force Base in El Paso County, near Colorado Springs, Colorado. The nearby Cheyenne Mountain Complex has the Alternate Command Center. The NORAD commander and deputy commander (CINCNORAD) are, respectively, a United States four-star general or equivalent and a Canadian three-maple-leaf general or equivalent."

It's a little-known fact that now and again highly controversial tales surface concerning NORAD and nothing less than alien bodies. Of course, it's not at all out of the question that the collective tales are simply that: tales. Indeed, as interesting as such stories are, they parallel sensational claims of (A) the U.S. Government having Bigfoot bodies hidden away at secret sites, of (B) extraterrestrial corpses held at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio, and of (C) alien corpses hidden at the world's most well-known secret base: Area 51. The stories are intriguing and eye-opening. But, so far, at least, no evidence of such bodies existing - and kept hidden behind closed doors - has ever surfaced. Worse, some of the stories come from people unwilling to share their full, real names - which effectively renders the stories useless, even if they do have some validity to them. All of which brings me back to the matter of NORAD and alien bodies.

In early 1968, Suzanne, then of Gallipolis, Ohio was told an amazing story by her father. According to the tale, Suzanne's father decided to come clean on something that he knew of the UFO phenomenon. It was something amazing and which, if true, had a bearing on national security. Suzanne’s father said that in 1965 and while employed at NORAD, he saw, under circumstances that he declined to explain, a series of black-and-white, aerial photographs of three small, large-headed bodies strewn around a desert floor, and which also showed a large amount of silvery, bright debris. The location, Suzanne’s father said, was New Mexico, and the photos were taken in 1947. This strongly suggests the now-famous Roswell affair of 1947 – although, admittedly, Suzanne's father made no reference to Roswell at all. Suzanne was warned by her father not to reveal what he had told her until after his death – which occurred in 1981. Such was the concern, and even fear, in her father's voice, however, Suzanne chose to remain silent until the late-1990s.

A very similar account surfaced from Kevin Randle and Don Schmitt - who have both dug deep into the intricacies of the Roswell affair. Commenting on those who had either direct or indirect access to actual crash- recovered exhibits of alien technology or alien remains, Schmitt and Randle stated the following in their 1991 book, UFO Crash at Roswell:  “There are others, however, who have firsthand experiences, but who did not see the bodies. They, through their work with the military, saw files containing notes about the crashes and photographs of the bodies. One of those is a man who said he worked at NORAD in Colorado Springs. In the course of computerizing some of the files, he came across one labeled: USAAF (United States Army Air Force) Early Automation. The file dealt with the recovery of several small bodies and included black and white photographs of them. The man said the bodies were small, no more than four or five feet tall, with big heads.”

Now and again claims are made that dead aliens are held at the very secure facility, Porton Down, England. Some people term the place as the U.K.'s Area 51. With that said, consider this: It was in January 2001 that the then-retired - and now late - British Admiral of the Fleet, Lord Hill-Norton, decided to get into the Rendlesham Forest controversy. Having had an interest in UFOs for decades, he used his considerable clout to try and figure out what occurred in 1980. It was hardly an easy task for Hill-Norton to achieve. Of specific interest to Hill-Norton were the claims of a connection to the activities of the Porton Down staff. He wanted to know “whether personnel from Porton Down visited Rendlesham Forest or the area surrounding RAF Watton in December 1980 or January 1981; and whether they are aware of any tests carried out in either of those two areas aimed at assessing any nuclear, biological or chemical hazard.”

Hill-Norton got a response from the government he had dutifully worked for. It was not, however, the reply that he hoped for. The reply came from Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean. She spoke on behalf of the MoD, who provided nothing but a concise comment that didn’t really advance the investigation into the case at all. The baroness said: “The staff at the Defense Evaluation and Research Agency (DERA) Chemic and Biological Defense (CBD) laboratories at Porton Down have made a thorough search of their archives and have found no record of any such visits.” Hmm. Moving on...

Given the fact that Russia amounts to a huge area of land, there are plenty of areas in which secure, underground facilities can be built – and which have been built. The U.S. Intelligence community has known for decades that at least two, massive facilities exist – and which have the ability to survive nuclear strikes, chiefly as a result of the fact that they are built deeply into almost impenetrable mountains. Those same mountains are Mount Yamantau and the Kosvinsky Mountains. As for Yamantau, it stands at in excess of 5,000 feet and is the highest mountain in the Urals. As far back as the 1990s, the Russians began the construction of a massive facility within Mount Yamantau, primarily to provide the controlling elite with a secure place in which to survive a nuclear exchange between the super-powers.

American spy-satellites have confirmed massive digging on the mountain, suggesting that huge, hollowed out sections of the mountain now exist – and which have been turned into the perfect locations for literally hundreds of thousands of people to survive an attack. And make no mistake, the Yamantau facility is gigantic. Studies undertaken by American intelligence agents suggest that its size is that of Washington, D.C.’s huge Interstate 495, which surrounds the capitol of the United States. Given that I-495 has a circumference of more than sixty miles and that will give you an idea of the scale of the Yamantau facility. 

As for the Mount Kosvinsky installation, that is equally almost impenetrable. Built well into the heart of the mountain – which is located in the northern Urals – it is protected by around 1,200-feet of granite and, just like the Yamantau base, is designed to provide housing for the elite in the event of a nuclear attack – and also to allow for some form of continuation of government. Presuming, of course, there is anyone left to be governed after a major nuclear exchange between the most powerful nations on the planet. All that’s really known for sure is that the construction of the base was completed by the mid-1990s and that it, like Yamantau, can house thousands of people – with a near-indefinite supply of food, water, medical supplies and all the provisions needed to survive underground not just for months but for years. Some intelligence estimates suggest possibly even for decades. Both facilities have "dead alien" stories attached to them: the typical kind of stories that have come out of Dugway, Area 51 and Porton Down. As I said, I'm not much of a believer of the tales of E.T. corpses hidden away. But, if you want to go looking, then the places above are definitely the one to begin with.

Nick Redfern

Nick Redfern works full time as a writer, lecturer, and journalist. He writes about a wide range of unsolved mysteries, including Bigfoot, UFOs, the Loch Ness Monster, alien encounters, and government conspiracies. Nick has written 41 books, writes for Mysterious Universe and has appeared on numerous television shows on the The History Channel, National Geographic Channel and SyFy Channel.

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