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This week’s venture kicks of with a number of strange entity encounters before we return to the topic of exopolitics, and UFO disclosure from the White House, rumored to be due this month.
Things then take a rather morbid turn as we discus recent hauntings of morgues, the best ways to die in space, and then subsequently discover how during an autopsy, Aaron earned the nickname “Slider”.
Read on for videos, show notes, and music.
UFO sends St Petersburg residents scrambling for cameras
Argentina: UFO Emerges from River at Punta Piedras
Argentina: CE-3 “Repeater” in La Pampa
Off-duty cop spots aliens at crop circle
James Gilliland Declares ECETI Ranch Off Limits
Official disclosure of extraterrestrial life is imminent
5 Frightening (But True) Space Stories
Strange happenings at coroner’s office
Matthias Schlitte Is A Modern-Day Popeye
Did India invent the nose job?
The strange case of the man who took 40,000 ecstasy pills in nine years
Scientists study possible health benefits of LSD and ecstasy
Spanish woman thanks ‘guardian angel’ who diagnosed rare disease on bus
Proof of Concept
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Clubfeet
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Griff
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CYNE
“Pretty Apollo” (mp3)
from “Water For Mars”
(Hometapes)
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The Ascent
“Ready to Take” (mp3)
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The Bicycles
“What a Fool” (mp3)
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Awesome New Republic – Digital World via Pasta Primavera
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Another great episode … I was wondering whether there would be one this week and viola! Here it is.
Another great episode … I was wondering whether there would be one this week and viola! Here it is.
hooray ! episode 10 ! i can now stop holding my breath !
cheers guys !
hooray ! episode 10 ! i can now stop holding my breath !
cheers guys !
On the subject of Frightening Space stories, the story of the Lost Cosmonauts from the Russian Space program during the 60's is probably one of the oddest. Have a look at Brian Dunning's “Skeptoid” podcast site, (http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4115) and have a listen to some recordings that were made by two Italian Brothers at the time. Famously, they variously recorded what they believed to be a dying mans heartbeat, and his last breaths, a woman Cosmonauts seemingly terrified voice, and the sound of a repeated SOS from a manned craft that seemed to be drifting out into space. Combined with the evidence of photo tampering by the space program at the time, (Cosmonauts “Disappearing” from group photographs etc, see http://www.forteantimes.com/front_website/galle... for the photo's disappearing Cosmonaut, Grigoriy Nelyubov) it makes, at the very least, for a fascinating story. Have you ever considered covering this on your show?
On the subject of Frightening Space stories, the story of the Lost Cosmonauts from the Russian Space program during the 60's is probably one of the oddest. Have a look at Brian Dunning's “Skeptoid” podcast site, (http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4115) and have a listen to some recordings that were made by two Italian Brothers at the time. Famously, they variously recorded what they believed to be a dying mans heartbeat, and his last breaths, a woman Cosmonauts seemingly terrified voice, and the sound of a repeated SOS from a manned craft that seemed to be drifting out into space. Combined with the evidence of photo tampering by the space program at the time, (Cosmonauts “Disappearing” from group photographs etc, see http://www.forteantimes.com/front_website/galle... for the photo's disappearing Cosmonaut, Grigoriy Nelyubov) it makes, at the very least, for a fascinating story. Have you ever considered covering this on your show?
now thats just really frightening to be lost in space for the last hours of your life, out in the cold unknown not knowing whats going to happen next such is your goverment going to aid you or is this the end.. on another note cant wait to get home and listen to another great episode love the music btw Ben great taste if i may add.
now thats just really frightening to be lost in space for the last hours of your life, out in the cold unknown not knowing whats going to happen next such is your goverment going to aid you or is this the end.. on another note cant wait to get home and listen to another great episode love the music btw Ben great taste if i may add.
omg another great episode. You have made my day.
omg another great episode. You have made my day.
I mean no offence, let me start with saying that. I have humor and will use it at will. I dont think we are alone, that would be crazy talk. Having said that.
I love the “Obama” going to come clean. As if he knows how number 1, 2 he will be laughed, literally laughed out of office.
Dont we have aliens in this country already? (bad joke, but come on your laughing) Will the new ailens be required be taxed is what I want to know, tired of the free pass. Do we now have to give them healthcare and pay for it?
Ben, can we arrange they land in Austrailia? I hear its really nice, but can get a little hot in booths. ( i loved that part, along with the post office bit)
I think disclosure will come, when the ships come and stay for a bit and not hide. When I want to be seen I dont hide. And why would aliens want to come to this planet? I would pass it on by with all the wars and what not, pollution and pepsi alone.
Aron-I want a diet coke, not a regular coke. And I dont drink from a can.
Love the podcast. really love the music and your accents.
I mean no offence, let me start with saying that. I have humor and will use it at will. I dont think we are alone, that would be crazy talk. Having said that.
I love the “Obama” going to come clean. As if he knows how number 1, 2 he will be laughed, literally laughed out of office.
Dont we have aliens in this country already? (bad joke, but come on your laughing) Will the new ailens be required to pay taxes is what I want to know, tired of the free pass. If so, come on in!! Do we now have to give them healthcare and pay for it?
Ben, can we arrange they land in Austrailia? I hear its really nice, but can get a little hot in booths. ( i loved that part, along with the post office bit)
I think disclosure will come, when the ships come and stay for a bit and not hide. When I want to be seen I dont hide. And why would aliens want to come to this planet? I would pass it on by with all the wars and what not, pollution and pepsi alone.
Aron-I want a diet coke, not a regular coke. And I dont drink from a can.
Love the podcast. really love the music and your accents.
I just loved this episode. Every minute of it. But I especially enjoy it when you crack each other up. Those moments are so much fun to listen to. You guys have a great rapport and chemistry together, and it makes for a great show.
I just loved this episode. Every minute of it. But I especially enjoy it when you crack each other up. Those moments are so much fun to listen to. You guys have a great rapport and chemistry together, and it makes for a great show.
Great episode! I enjoyed Aaron's boobtastic autopsy story. Maybe there's an offshoot podcast in the works “Aaron's Mysterious Boobiverse?” Just kidding, fellas. Although I would subscribe to that one.
Disclosure? Maybe David Wilcock's date for a televised message about ETs was an ad for the new “V” series. I enjoy Wilcock's info about the Mars jump room. I swear that fellow, Dr. Pete, in the Project Camelot video you posted looks an awful lot like the actor in the Big Lebowski who plays the other Lebowski. Anybody else?
Also regarding the big disclosure by President Obama. If he won't disclose torture information because of the harm he sees it posing to the US, I doubt the same administration would release information showing that the over the past 60 years the US actively and deceptively hid the answers to one of humanity's greatest mysteries. But here's hoping. Aaron, I'll take a cherry vanilla coke from the fountain.
I love it when you cover ancient technologies/lost civilizations. Maybe the next interview could be about this topic?
Anyway, have an autopsy free weekend and thanks for the great listening.
Great episode! I enjoyed Aaron's boobtastic autopsy story. Maybe there's an offshoot podcast in the works “Aaron's Mysterious Boobiverse?” Just kidding, fellas. Although I would subscribe to that one.
Disclosure? Maybe David Wilcock's date for a televised message about ETs was an ad for the new “V” series. I enjoy Wilcock's info about the Mars jump room. I swear that fellow, Dr. Pete, in the Project Camelot video you posted looks an awful lot like the actor in the Big Lebowski who plays the other Lebowski. Anybody else?
Also regarding the big disclosure by President Obama. If he won't disclose torture information because of the harm he sees it posing to the US, I doubt the same administration would release information showing that the over the past 60 years the US actively and deceptively hid the answers to one of humanity's greatest mysteries. But here's hoping. Aaron, I'll take a cherry vanilla coke from the fountain.
I love it when you cover ancient technologies/lost civilizations. Maybe the next interview could be about this topic?
Anyway, have an autopsy free weekend and thanks for the great listening.
Great episode, I loved hearing about all the bad luck people had due to the “box”. I couldn't listen to it though for 5 days because the Friday before the episode came out my internet crashed (and wouldn't come back online until Tuesday).
Also I had to laugh at Aarons story, it reminds me of why I went into engineering instead of medicine…it smells better.
Great episode, I loved hearing about all the bad luck people had due to the “box”. I couldn't listen to it though for 5 days because the Friday before the episode came out my internet crashed (and wouldn't come back online until Tuesday).
Also I had to laugh at Aarons story, it reminds me of why I went into engineering instead of medicine…it smells better.
Hey guys, last week's episode with the interviews were fantastic and very entertaining…thanks again and again for making my drive to work so damn enjoyable!
Hey guys, last week's episode with the interviews were fantastic and very entertaining…thanks again and again for making my drive to work so damn enjoyable!
I gotta agree with Aaron here. “Disclosure” will not happen. I will pay for half the cokes
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*also not legally binding*
I gotta agree with Aaron here. “Disclosure” will not happen. I will pay for half the cokes
.
*also not legally binding*
Deal mate!
Deal mate!
Love the Family Guy reference. You all have the same humor we in the States have. Love it. Great show.
Love the Family Guy reference. You all have the same humor we in the States have. Love it. Great show.
Dear MU,
I love the show. While listening to Episode 210, you guys mentioned that the health care bill would necessarily be a nonissue once news of extraterrestrial contact was disclosed. I'm willing to bet that if this is actually true, which is a stretch, that any ET out there might have enough in common with us that they don't play the 'get something for nothing' game. In which case, their technology may be a bargaining chip for some needs they might want met. We often assume that ET is somehow above need in our imaginings. If these ETs do exist, they aren't our gods and we'd be stupid to assume they were, so they can't simply provide all the answers.
So, my reasoning is that the healthcare bill might be just as important in either scenario because we'll essentially be in the same position as we were, disclosure or no disclosure.
Keep up the awesome work. Good to have you back and good to have Aaron on the show–he's a fine addition. I just feel bad for his roommate.
Steve McLain
Located in California, USA
Dear MU,
I love the show. While listening to Episode 210, you guys mentioned that the health care bill would necessarily be a nonissue once news of extraterrestrial contact was disclosed. I'm willing to bet that if this is actually true, which is a stretch, that any ET out there might have enough in common with us that they don't play the 'get something for nothing' game. In which case, their technology may be a bargaining chip for some needs they might want met. We often assume that ET is somehow above need in our imaginings. If these ETs do exist, they aren't our gods and we'd be stupid to assume they were, so they can't simply provide all the answers.
So, my reasoning is that the healthcare bill might be just as important in either scenario because we'll essentially be in the same position as we were, disclosure or no disclosure.
Keep up the awesome work. Good to have you back and good to have Aaron on the show–he's a fine addition. I just feel bad for his roommate.
Steve McLain
Located in California, USA
“why the hell would you still be concerned with health care if you have disclosure on ets visiting the earth.”
most naive ignorant foolish sentence uttered for the year 2009. I'm appalled that your other listeners haven't given you a thorough dressing down for it yet. I'm guessing that most people here are outside the US, or just out of touch with the national raging going on here about the collapse of the US health care system along with the general economy.
“our technology would change our medical technology would change our finances would change….”
WHAT???? what the fuck are you talking about? NO. NOTHING would change guys. The only difference would be the end of exclusive ownership of some specific information. Thats all were getting here stop being delusional. IF it was possible for all these changes to happen it already would. There are other barriers to what you are talking about that exist separate from disclosure. Simply having the US government announce that ets exist doesnt magically distribute H1N1 vaccines across the country. Do you think cancer treatment centers world wide are suddenly getting free for all cures from the sky just because obama says ets exist????? All obama can do right now is make it something the US government officially recognizes as fact. A month or two after the announcement and disclosure would be old news. But children dying in mass from h1n1, seniors losing their health coverage, and a nation with a health care crisis spinning out of control continues. Money will still be the panic it is today as people watch their families fall ill and cause hospital bills to fly out of control. Aliens arent going to show up with magic money. They dont have something that we can just use in place of money, whatever they have would take generations for us to adapt. Free cures for cancer and a million other diseases? For how many billions of people??? Even if they did just showed up to do that what degree of warfare would interrupt amongst nations to try and be first in line? What you are inferring is just insidious and absurd beyond comprehension.
Just answer me this. Why do you think aliens all want to come down here and fix the world and end all of our suffering in the space of a few days? Why do you think they have the resources to do this and the intent? If they have the resources and intent, why are they just sitting there waiting from president to president of the US, and ONLY the US, to provide disclosure before they swoop down here and do it?? Can you imagine how many millions of ships that fleet would be if they were going to just show up and fix everything in a few days? And if they cant fix it in a few days, if maybe its going to take a few generations for them to help us, arent we going to need a few health care bills passed between now and then? Perspective and priority….
If there is a bit about disclosure that the obama administration wants to talk about, it better damn well wait until the health care bill is done and over with, in whatever form it passes. I dont fucking need to know about aliens. I do need to know my wife can deliver her child with the proper amount of coverage and support from the hospital here in spite of the economy collapse. We have lost so much coverage in the last two years because our company cant afford it anymore, our deductible is thousands of dollars every year…… are the greys going to show up with cash and a magic baby delivery device just because obama said so.
whatever.
They better get the health care thing settled, one way or the other first, before talking about et…..seriously.
Sorry i like your show, but your shit about disclosure is starting to irritate me.
“Everything would be different”
Be realistic. Very little would be different. To think otherwise is to completely demean and dismiss the absolute tragedy our world is in. These are not gods we are talking about, these are beings who are, at best, rather perplexed by our predicament.
“why the hell would you still be concerned with health care if you have disclosure on ets visiting the earth.”
most naive ignorant foolish sentence uttered for the year 2009. I'm appalled that your other listeners haven't given you a thorough dressing down for it yet. I'm guessing that most people here are outside the US, or just out of touch with the national raging going on here about the collapse of the US health care system along with the general economy.
“our technology would change our medical technology would change our finances would change….”
WHAT???? what the fuck are you talking about? NO. NOTHING would change guys. The only difference would be the end of exclusive ownership of some specific information. Thats all were getting here stop being delusional. IF it was possible for all these changes to happen it already would. There are other barriers to what you are talking about that exist separate from disclosure. Simply having the US government announce that ets exist doesnt magically distribute H1N1 vaccines across the country. Do you think cancer treatment centers world wide are suddenly getting free for all cures from the sky just because obama says ets exist????? All obama can do right now is make it something the US government officially recognizes as fact. A month or two after the announcement and disclosure would be old news. But children dying in mass from h1n1, seniors losing their health coverage, and a nation with a health care crisis spinning out of control continues. Money will still be the panic it is today as people watch their families fall ill and cause hospital bills to fly out of control. Aliens arent going to show up with magic money. They dont have something that we can just use in place of money, whatever they have would take generations for us to adapt. Free cures for cancer and a million other diseases? For how many billions of people??? Even if they did just showed up to do that what degree of warfare would interrupt amongst nations to try and be first in line? What you are inferring is just insidious and absurd beyond comprehension.
Just answer me this. Why do you think aliens all want to come down here and fix the world and end all of our suffering in the space of a few days? Why do you think they have the resources to do this and the intent? If they have the resources and intent, why are they just sitting there waiting from president to president of the US, and ONLY the US, to provide disclosure before they swoop down here and do it?? Can you imagine how many millions of ships that fleet would be if they were going to just show up and fix everything in a few days? And if they cant fix it in a few days, if maybe its going to take a few generations for them to help us, arent we going to need a few health care bills passed between now and then? Perspective and priority….
If there is a bit about disclosure that the obama administration wants to talk about, it better damn well wait until the health care bill is done and over with, in whatever form it passes. I dont fucking need to know about aliens. I do need to know my wife can deliver her child with the proper amount of coverage and support from the hospital here in spite of the economy collapse. We have lost so much coverage in the last two years because our company cant afford it anymore, our deductible is thousands of dollars every year…… are the greys going to show up with cash and a magic baby delivery device just because obama said so.
whatever.
They better get the health care thing settled, one way or the other first, before talking about et…..seriously.
Sorry i like your show, but your shit about disclosure is starting to irritate me.
“Everything would be different”
Be realistic. Very little would be different. To think otherwise is to completely demean and dismiss the absolute tragedy our world is in. These are not gods we are talking about, these are beings who are, at best, rather perplexed by our predicament.
one other thing to also consider that completely freaks me out
since the election of obama gun purchase and ownership has skyrocketed particularly amongst the religious right. in general the religious right believe that when the rapture happens, the antichrist will convince those who remain that aliens took all the people away. laugh as much as you want but most baptists churches i am aware of teach this in their bible book of revelation end times dogma for decades now, i first heard it when i was six and most people around me have heard it, fear it, or fervently believe it. Generalizing here these are the people who are watching fox news, angry with the socialist obama, angry that the coming health bill will destroy their social security and medicaid, are certain the end times are right around the corner at 2012………
and then imagine obama announces aliens are in contact with his administration. aliens the religious right do not believe can exist. they are demons instead, sent to decieve us. How many christian religious right conservatives are there in the us? How many of them are armed and ready?
“w t f w t f w t f w t f” – last signal received from earth. klaatu says 'whoa…'
http://fukung.net/v/239/chillpill.jpg
great show guys ! Loved the story about he woman with the red orb and the mad halloween party.
I am with you about disclosure ….not gonna happen, though the idea of a free coke…..well……you never know ..lol
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im happy to calm down and rephrase
if you had come to the US right now and appeared on any major news forum show, pick your favorite channel, and mocked people for caring about the current health bill our entire nation is top side down about….
“why the hell would you still be concerned with health care if you have disclosure on ets visiting the earth.”
I'm guessing the rest of your stay here would become unpleasant.
Then again maybe laughter at pure absurdity would help calm things down a little and let you pass as just trying to ease tensions.
Your idea that disclosure on ets will rain happiness and flowers from the sky is disturbing. These are not gods for us to worship. What solutions they may find for us could just as easily be wrong. What they have in the way of solutions is what worked for them, NOT guaranteed to work for us. What solutions they have will take a very long time for us to adapt, adjust, accept, if ever. What could be simple fixes for them could be cause for war and rebellion for us. Why do you even think aliens all want to come down here and fix the world and end all of our suffering? Why do you think they have the resources to do this and the intent? If they have the resources and intent, why are they just sitting there waiting from president to president of the US, and ONLY the US, to provide disclosure before they swoop down here and do it? Do you picture a million alien ships with medical equipment and supplies and whatever else all just sitting on the moon waiting for the day when a US president says the ets exist. Please tell me why this makes sense to you.
We will need a few health bills passed here in the US in the mean time. People still need to participate in western medicine for a few generations, regardless of obama announcing that ETs exist. And yeah anyone with any sense of priority and common sense would definitely throw away thoughts of et disclosure in light of the current health bill.
Disclosure will bring one thing, one more government on earth acknowledges that ets exist, is that really more important then the imminent collapse of health care in our country?
Wouldnt YOU think it best to wait until this bill is passed before doing something this bold? Consider that the majority will NOT be looking at the message and its meaning. It will become a reflection of obama as a person and a leader, and his administration. Aliens??? pffft whatever, obama sees flying saucers, what next. Yeah and did he sign that bill yet?
Thanks for the re-write Puff, much calmer this time round
My comments were stemming from the idea that the health care bill would be a major factor in determining whether or not disclosure would happen or not, which I still find ridiculous.
I absolutely do not believe that if there are ETs observing this earth, they are the answer to our problems. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I/we believe that “ets will rain happiness and flowers from the sky”. In fact I'm all for the hypothesis that one of the reasons we don't have forced disclosure could be due to some sort of “Non-intervention” policy on the behalf of ET observers. Humanity needs to solve our own global issues without any influence from outside. In that way we truly grow as a species.
Thus the health care bill is important and I totally agree that simple disclosure would do very little towards solving any of the issues facing humanity.
The real issues stem from our nature as a collective species. When the elements of truth and compassion overtake greed and lust for power, then we may see a substantive change.
Sorry. Wow. Ok. In all calmness, that definitely did not come through on the podcast at all. I got the idea that somehow aliens would change everything from the statement arron spoke just after your bit about the health care bill. Listen for it. “Technology will change, medical technology will change, finances will change”…. implying that somehow full disclosure is going to change everything – therefore why bother with the impending health care bill when somehow all this other stuff is going to change.
Oh well, worrying myself with other things for now.
“Humanity needs to solve our own global issues without any influence from outside factors. In that way we truly grow as a species.”
This makes me wish that, as a race, we could make our own non intervention acceptance policy. Its not that I think all aliens are evil. I just dont think benevolent is a very good word for them either like Gilliland was saying. Its about our long term independence. We need to do this, we need to solve these problems for ourselves, we have to figure this all out for ourselves and be considered equals.
I disagree with the comments one fella made on the subject of disclosure here in the States. He said “My source says that they have real concerns that a disclosure announcement could torpedo the heath care bill if it happens sooner than later by distracting the public from this issue.” I know you guys had a good laugh on this one but when I heard that Obama was believed to be considering disclosure my IMMEDIATE thought was that this would be a distraction so his health care bill WOULD pass. The bill would NOT be torpedoed; quite the opposite. With the citizenry distracted on the topic of aliens (not the illegal ones from Mexico that shouldn't be covered with the health care bill) the health care bill would likely sail through Congress because not as many of the constituents would be calling their reps to protest or attending rally's that show opposition, etc. Just thought I'd mention that. – Gary
With the imminent collapse of health care (Medicare, Social Security) and other govt-run entities like Amtrak and the Postal Service that are tanking I've got a great idea. …… Let's give the government an even bigger program to run into the ground …. National Health care! Socialism is not what this country was founded on. Please read “The 5,000 Year Leap”. It's very insightful as to just how far behind we've left the ideas that made this country great.
taking everything you just said about what amounts to impending socialism in this country – the health care bill – and put that together with the rallys against this happening – which from my point of view is threatening to spill into violence – looking further into the abortion implications, do you think it would be possible right now for the us government to produce an official full disclosure and maybe have the exact opposite effect. Instead of distracting people from the bill, it falls under the radar except for the few people in the ufo community who will jump up and applaud and shout “see i told you so” only to be met with complete apathy and silence. And of course, it will be judged as insincere because of the timing and become a negative reflection of his judgement. Conservatives would run with it and spin it back at him.
I have a real hard time imaging every newspaper in the world with a front page headline of 'aliens exist'. People really dont care right now. Because what does exist: unemployment, lost health care coverage, lost police coverage, criminal activity on the rise now, mortgage foreclosure, wage reduction, school cuts, h1n1, and dead soldiers returning from Afghanistan. Maybe its just me because im in michigan, the new third world country. But around here most people just will not care. Nothing short of a massive attack would keep their eyes off of obama, democrats, and this coming health bill.
You could be right there puffmouse. And as heated as this debate is both Republicans and Democrats would be accusing each other of plotting secretly with the aliens to make it happen. Would make for some interesting mid-term election political ads, huh? LOL
From the 4th world country of Tennessee…. Gary
If I may interject for a moment… Would another rational hypothesis be that Everything that is going on here in the US as far as the Socialism programs i.e. Healthcare for example coming into focus may be the first requirements that the ET's have before seriously initiating first contact. In other words we have to show that we can take care of each other before even applying for their help? I'm just trying to see the “big picture” if you will and obviously everything is done for a reason and I'm just trying to put together the possibilities.. I agree that simple disclosure may not solve all the issues facing humanity but what if it's enough to challenge perceptions that hold up many issues from being resolved? Energy Dependence for example… Just some thoughts..
Interesting!
Not to dwell too much on the political. I'd hardly call the Affordable Health Care Act Socialist though, it mandates that all citizens have insurance, pretty much cementing the existence of private for-profit insurers. Introducing the “socialist” public option just adds another competitor the health insurance market that isn't trying to make profits off of the sick and healthy alike. If people want to point at socialist services in the US, they should point at the public schools, fire departments, emergency medical workers, post offices, and public parks.
If there is disclosure will Abuduction counseling be covered by BlueCross Blue Shield?
I am so with you Gary! I think Obama would declare his mother in Law as an alien if it meant his bill would pass, anything to divert us from the truth.
I say this swine flu scare is a blind as well. I dont buy it. And I refuse to get the shot for me or my kids. Hey I saw the x-files and read books. lol
I dont put it past either administation to try to scare the bejesus out of us to get what they want.
I want him to do it, I need a tremendous laugh.
I want a darn diet coke Aron!
Thanks for another great show!
The chemistry between Ben and Aaron is working great. Aaron – your way of bringing your medical experience and knowledge into the show is a wonderful addition to the show. I enjoyed the anecdote about the autopsy. And the coroner story became more than just a spooky incident after you explained some of the medical stuff about autopsies. True, there was a gross-out factor, but the first-hand perspective is delightfully fresh and original.
The back-and-forth dialog has a nice mix of critical thinking blended in. I love how you've both been dissecting the UFO stories like the ongoing disclosure fever and the ECETI announcement.
Keep up the great work!
Such a great comment! Thanks for your supportive words!!
Its funny how all of this discussion took place at exactly the same time the recreation of V was playing on tv.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfnULd2l_Ho&feat...
What gets me is that people think that ET disclosure should be some big deal. I mean, to us it would certainly be a day to remember, but I don't see why people should get so emotional over it. In fact, disclosure probably happens every day on other planets (if there was ever any official denying of ET existence to begin with).
In other words, they say “Aliens are real,” and big whop. Life goes on. In fact, disclosure would only affirm what already so many people know (more people than you might think), and I do agree that we should have no illusions of what disclosure means.
I have friends who thought that Obama would fix everything. One woman was quoted as saying that she wouldn't have to pay gas or mortgage any longer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI). I think that some people are just as confused when it comes to more direct ET contact. Certainly we will be thinking of ourselves differently, and certainly there should be celebration of our formal introduction to a larger community, but I am not certain that it should mean that all of the human problems will be instantly solved.
I am still not understanding some of the comments.
Certainly, the government, so long as it exists, will always have plenty of reason to postpone disclosure. In fact, it appears that the longer they wait, the more reasons start appearing!
However, I am not totally understanding the emotional charge that so many are bearing towards the subject. If you know that ET's are visiting, then the end, you don't need to wait until disclosure, because you already know about it.
Certainly our governments, especially the governments of the United States, are shady (at best), but eventually, with time, things that make too much sense have their turn. In other words, it has always been the general way of the world to, over time especially, give way to truth. And disclosure is no different.
And, to reiterate a point that I made earlier, we should not have illusions about how we should react when disclosure happens. We go and hold hands and celebrate in the street, fine. To think that all of our problems are solved, we should not. Perhaps we feel more peaceful towards our other humans, but now we have a whole new set of problems and questions to ask ourselves. There's not going to be all sorts of stagnation. More expansion, though perhaps on a different level of understanding. Different jobs eventually, with different skills required.
Also, something as radical as suggesting that there are very real and tangible beings that possess more power than our governments is something that our governments would not be so willing to do. Governments currently possess the legal monopoly on violence, which they actually frequently use to demonstrate that if we don't follow their rules that we will go someplace unpleasant. Now, when you throw another race of beings into the mix (and with one comes the implication of many many more), that would make us all, in mass, question our allegiances. In other words, the establishments (of all kinds) would be challenged, and establishments function to preserve themselves foremost.
So, to say that they would soon come out with the knowledge, I can't really imagine that, because beside all of those other things they have never really been known to be the most honest types around. But to say that it should never happen is false. Look at how far we have come in 20 years! Now imagine the next 20, and the next! Eventually, things change, and give way, and things tend towards the better.
Whoops! Forgot to say, thanks for the podcast, can't wait for next week, and great job as usual!
I couldn't agree with you more Will – governments have little to gain by Disclosure and more to fear than most ordinary people. How will they continue to control the masses ?
Hey Brandon – like your comments, especially the point about our problems remaining. I think your summation of the human response is right on target. Fear will dominate the masses and duallity will predominate until we truly shift our awareness of our place in teh universe.
Nice show guys. I thought you might like this link to a study done on the link between Tweets, animal behaviour and imminant earthquakes : http://www.electricquakes.com/Twitter%20earthqu... . I wonder what a similar study applied to ufo sightings or disclosure yield.
Hey Ben – still happy to share my story about life long involvement with alien species. No gain in it for me, just happy to share because I know there are others who have felt equally out of place.
I had 2 experiences this last week that I'll be posting : http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/ .
I've also mapped all Australian Crop Circles and have some interesting things to say about what I found. On the verge of being irritating, my brother has almost finsihed editing all his interview with Rachel Bree (alien profiler for Brit Gov). He tells me part 2 will be up soon and is looking do do a public FAQ with her. Listeners questions welcomed : http://peopleofearth.podbean.com/ .
PS. You really are doing a great job with this show – especially for a couple of young fellas !
Oh – I nearly forgot – I agree wholheartedly with James Gilliland about positive off worlders. No, they are not all benevolent but those that are not are kept in check. As to James's notion of so much disinformation infiltrating the ufology movement – I think he's spot on. I also believe that there is a a deliberate disinformation campaign that aims to confuse by appearing legitimate – for example Nick Pope's efforts to disclose the British Governments ufo files. All staged guys. The real deal has a very different language.
As to what you guys do – yeah sure it's entertainment – sometimes you find something genuine or legitimate in the ufo world but you're not part of the dissinformation campaign. Just 2 guys having fun. So keep up the great work and don't let the cynics get in your way !
I found it very interesting your discussion on ecstasy,and LSD.
I have taken these illicit drugs recreationally in the past I had both positive and negative experiences with them.
With my experiences with LSD I would say that I felt a kind of mind expansion taking place and even that it altered my personality somewhat for the better.
Rather than mystical i felt a total grounding in the scientific world, it made things clear and open and logical.
However I totally agree with Aarons point of view that you can't trust the black market for these things and I had very bad experiences with esctacy laced with other substances.
Anyways great discussion guys,
That's the thing though: I'm not sure that we should feel fear. Certainly some might, because they don't understand it, because it is a power above what they may have imagined, but really so many of the people already believe that there is other intelligent life visiting Earth, and still many more that know that aliens must exist somewhere out there.
Therefore, I don't think that people should get so charged. It is an event, surely, one that we should be happy about, one that will change the course of our history, and make us think differently about ourselves, and ask many questions, but I don't think that we should become fanatical.
we want more MU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally catching up from being out of town! Great episode, I love it! I am TOTALLY with Aaron on the disclosure topic. There is no way society could handle it. Can you imagine? Take the H1N1 virus for example. All of a sudden we find out some scary unknown is present and all of a sudden it's the end of the world and there's a global pandemic and schools and workplaces close and everyone is in a huge panic when in reality, the virus is just as treatable as your every day flu. Even just speaking for myself (and I can probably be put in a seperate subset as an MU listener) I couldn't handle full disclosure. I'd freak out. If Obama went on television right now and said, “there are aliens among us!” I would probably run out in the street and scream. And then die.
So in short, if full disclosure does happen before the end of the year, I'll split the cost of those Cokes with you Aaron.
To the ones who would suggest that you two are co conspirators in the new world order: I would point them to Dr. Kaku and proclaim, “So!” I mean really; Why fight the future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHbnM_42mQE