Episode 213 – Mysterious Universe

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After going into hiding last week it seems the UFOs were back in full force for this week’s episode.

Argentina, Peru, and Chile saw numerous sightings with hundreds of witnesses, and a woman in Pennsylvania continued to capture impressive footage of gravity defying craft.

We also look at more Black Eyed Kids tales, the failed disclosure date, and a vague Bulgarian whistle blower.

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Show notes, video, and music after the jump.

Large triangle UFO spotted by commercial airline pilot in Memphis, Tennessee

Argentina: Speculation about UFOs Over Salta and Perú

Salta UFO Update (7:38 am, 11.28.09)

Salta and the 1995 “UFO Crash”

Peru: Astonishment Over Alleged UFOs

Chile: UFO Reported Over Iquique

Mysterious Aerial Lights and Beams in Pennsylvania Woods

UFO Hunting by Pittsburgh, PA

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Bizarre mutilations of cattle lead to ‘alien visitor’ theory

Exopolitics Movement Discredited By Stupid Prediction Of Obama Alien Disclosure

Respected scientist says aliens are among us

Crop Circles – Alien Messages Or Human Hoaxes?

The Saturday Strangeness

Evidence of life on Mars lurks beneath surface of meteorite, Nasa experts claim

Solar Tsunamis Are Real, NASA Says

The Woman Had Black Eyes

Shangri-La found

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“Orbit” (mp3)
from “Space”
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Light and Shade Part 1Roberto Bardini
“Protest 09″ (mp3)
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(2600 Music)

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Il vuoto germogliaHellzapop
“Seguo lo slancio” (mp3)
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“Truer Than True (Drop Logik Refreak)” (mp3)
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“Weightless” (mp3)
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“Giù il coperchio” (mp3)
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Final Track

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  • http://lozlo.com jgrundy

    Yeah, I watched the 2 in the show notes. I couldn't find the others on her website, just the still captures.
    I'll have a look when I've got time, but I'm pretty sceptical. ;)

  • matthewnk

    This is a great comment. While I do think that this plannet is most likely being visited by beings from elsewhere, I think we humans are woefully ill-equiped to speculate about what they might and might not be capable of. I'm often frustrated by what seems to be a pronounced hastyness within the field of UFO observation to rush to speculation.

  • matthewnk

    But she's interviewed hundreds of witness and experts over the course of multiple decades and multiple countries who DO know what they're talking about (ranchers, sheriffs, surgeons, etc.). Are you really ready to discount all of that documentation by saying insects might have done it?

  • coboot

    The first video, although could have some possibilities, also have airforce bases within flight of there. Just because the govt says an airbase is not in use, does not mean it is not being used.

    Coming from Long Island, we had grumman here and lots of secret testing, vibrations and other strange things growing up.

    Later I was told by a family member worked for grumman that he would chuckle when people would complain when “heavy trucks would come by & shake the house and rattle the windows” More like turbines he would say. As an adult I think about how big that truck would had have to be to shake the houses like that (late 70-late 80's). Today, Northrup Grumman is said to be gone, although you cant go down certain roads! Whatever.

    She was keen to catch it on tape though. Love to know what it is or what we have that other countries don't-yet.

    Still doubt any credible govt person esp the “Bama” will come out with anything. Good chance if Joe Biden knows he would gaffe it out. That i bet could happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Courtney-Franklin/100000200874650 Courtney Franklin

    I have listen to it, and she doesn't have a clue about what she's talking about, when the animal dies the gases in it's stomach expand to the point where the stomach rips open the animal's belly allowing insects and their larva to go to town on the soft organs. Besides Linda Molton Howe buys anything to do with ufo's you can send her a out focus video of a street lamp and say it's a ufo abducting a cow. Oh wait never mind that's already happened.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Courtney-Franklin/100000200874650 Courtney Franklin

    She could be the new Sprinkler lady (dbootsthediva)

  • http://lozlo.com jgrundy

    Yeah, I watched the 2 in the show notes. I couldn't find the others on her website, just the still captures.
    I'll have a look when I've got time, but I'm pretty sceptical. ;)

  • matthewnk

    But she's interviewed hundreds of witnesses over 20+ years who DO know what they're talking about; ranchers, sheriffs, surgeons etc.. Are you seriously ready to discredit ALL of that documentation by say it could be insects? Do insects break bones? You're ignoring huge swaths of information consistantly associated with this phenominon.

  • matthewnk

    This is a great comment. While I do think that this plannet is most likely being visited by beings from elsewhere, I think we humans are woefully ill-equiped to speculate about what they might and might not be capable of. I'm often frustrated by what seems to be a pronounced hastyness within the field of UFO observation to rush to speculation.

  • matthewnk

    But she's interviewed hundreds of witness and experts over the course of multiple decades and multiple countries who DO know what they're talking about (ranchers, sheriffs, surgeons, etc.). Are you really ready to discount all of that documentation by saying insects might have done it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Courtney-Franklin/100000200874650 Courtney Franklin

    If it's shonky, and misrepresented then yes I would. Plus Proof by verbosity much?

    So, are you willing to ignore every dead animal you see showing the same characteristics of cattle mutation because the animals are not massive cow beasts?

  • Nicole

    Loved the ghost stories – especially the red ghost encounter!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Courtney-Franklin/100000200874650 Courtney Franklin

    If it's shonky, and misrepresented then yes I would. Plus Proof by verbosity much?

    So, are you willing to ignore every dead animal you see showing the same characteristics of cattle mutation because the animals are not massive cow beasts?

  • Nicole

    Loved the ghost stories – especially the red ghost encounter!

  • latasha gibson

    hello! i am loving the black eyed kids stories! and the ghost story as well. i just watched the UFO videos and wow! i got chills watching the one with the beam! i actually saw a show (maybe on the discovery or history channel) where they set out to show how bugs and other nasty creatures help in the decaying process in attempts to debunk the cattle mutalations. i still don't know what to think about it. i don't think it's just bugs, flies and such(at least not all of the cases) but it is a little scary to me! the shangri-la video? oh wow! that is so so amazing! i hope if ( and when) they translate the texts we hear more about what they say. that was just so so beautiful!

  • latasha gibson

    hello! i am loving the black eyed kids stories! and the ghost story as well. i just watched the UFO videos and wow! i got chills watching the one with the beam! i actually saw a show (maybe on the discovery or history channel) where they set out to show how bugs and other nasty creatures help in the decaying process in attempts to debunk the cattle mutalations. i still don't know what to think about it. i don't think it's just bugs, flies and such(at least not all of the cases) but it is a little scary to me! the shangri-la video? oh wow! that is so so amazing! i hope if ( and when) they translate the texts we hear more about what they say. that was just so so beautiful!

  • Nicole

    Hey guys – new thread in the discussion boards on the MU Facebook page. This thread is for those wishing to discuss Season 1 of MU.
    See you there!

  • dalebrooks

    Thanks for mentioning me guys :) didnt think my story would get read out!!! Its Dale from Warrington – hope everyone enjoyed my story – cant wait for episode 14

  • Nicole

    Hey guys – new thread in the discussion boards on the MU Facebook page. This thread is for those wishing to discuss Season 1 of MU.
    See you there!

  • dalebrooks

    Thanks for mentioning me guys :) didnt think my story would get read out!!! Its Dale from Warrington – hope everyone enjoyed my story – cant wait for episode 14

  • smallerdemon

    “That grocery store in particular is a mecca for those of questionable intentions.” I’m not even sure what to think of that except jealousy that you thought to say it.

  • smallerdemon

    “That grocery store in particular is a mecca for those of questionable intentions.” I'm not even sure what to think of that except jealousy that you thought to say it.

  • smallerdemon

    Next week's topic has appeared in the skies! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/artic… And from SUCH a trustworthy news source!

  • snakefarmer

    Unfortunately I can;t explain this in detail because I don;'t know all the facts, but there's info about the cattle mutilation phenomenon that hasn't been made public which does not point to an alien explanation. if fact it seems that some of this is being done to determine toxicity levels in meat and land areas in relation to hazardous conditions. In order to not cause an alarm ( or cover their own asses) , some of these corporations , and possibly government food industries are performing the mutilations covertly to obtain meat specimens to sample. Many of the areas of the body that are”mutilated” are areas that would show the suspected toxicity. Yes, it's all very shady and secretive but likely all done by devious corporations not aliens. It's odd how everything that isn't immediately explainable is passed off as an alien action. How did cattle mutilation get to be an alien agenda anyway- that's really far fetched ? An extraterrestrial origin should be the LAST theory after all else has been exhausted.

  • smallerdemon

    “That grocery store in particular is a mecca for those of questionable intentions.” I'm not even sure what to think of that except jealousy that you thought to say it.

  • smallerdemon

    Next week's topic has appeared in the skies! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/artic… And from SUCH a trustworthy news source!

  • http://www.facebook.com/vojtech.balaban Vojtech Balaban

    Cool story but pity it was only a missle:

    http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/12/10/russia…

    Or so they say ;)

  • snakefarmer

    Unfortunately I can;t explain this in detail because I don;'t know all the facts, but there's info about the cattle mutilation phenomenon that hasn't been made public which does not point to an alien explanation. if fact it seems that some of this is being done to determine toxicity levels in meat and land areas in relation to hazardous conditions. In order to not cause an alarm ( or cover their own asses) , some of these corporations , and possibly government food industries are performing the mutilations covertly to obtain meat specimens to sample. Many of the areas of the body that are”mutilated” are areas that would show the suspected toxicity. Yes, it's all very shady and secretive but likely all done by devious corporations not aliens. It's odd how everything that isn't immediately explainable is passed off as an alien action. How did cattle mutilation get to be an alien agenda anyway- that's really far fetched ? An extraterrestrial origin should be the LAST theory after all else has been exhausted.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vojtech.balaban Vojtech Balaban

    Cool story but pity it was only a missle:

    http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/12/10/russia…

    Or so they say ;)

  • kevindowning1969

    I will always be a fan of MU. I really look forward to each episode. I was “Premium” from the first day it was available and will be glad to continue to support, and receive more premium content!

  • Rob

    So Glad you guys are back, I was a member before. and just became a member again, I glad to support you guys, this show rocks.

  • kevindowning1969

    I will always be a fan of MU. I really look forward to each episode. I was “Premium” from the first day it was available and will be glad to continue to support, and receive more premium content!

  • Rob

    So Glad you guys are back, I was a member before. and just became a member again, I glad to support you guys, this show rocks.

  • Tikki

    After listening to this portion of the podcast, I went to check out her youtube channel. Her videos are very interesting, however, I'm curious to know if you folks at MU have been following the recent events that have been happening to her.

    She's been having a lot of trouble with these videos, hackers, and youtube copyright laws… apparently a person has been setting up fake accounts pretending to be her. She's also being slapped with, i guess lawsuits, saying that she has copied these videos. the video she has most recently posted explains the troubles she's been going through trying to document these incidents…

    http://www.youtube.com/user/seeingUFOsPA#p/u/0/…

    Is this known to happen to those who post UFO sightings? I don't know much about the UFO watcher community… but it gives me the hebbie gibbies, and makes me believe her sightings a bit more.

    I hope you get her on your show. I'd love to hear her story and how she's doing!

  • Tikki

    So much to say while I'm going through this podcast!

    I wanted to comment on the Latchezar Filipov segment.

    I think a great point was brought up about context and media… the media is known for misleading the public about research. One simple comment, fact, idea found/published/presented can be taken by the media and spun a different way. I would imagine that this may be the very case. The media, or a source could have gotten a hold of something as simple as a line or two about his research, and spun it into this.

    However, I'd like to think there are some other options.

    The world of academia is a difficult place. Your career is based on your significant and relevant research findings…this leads into two poitns. (1) Latchezar Filipov maybe using his reputation as a source of credible evidence. This often happens when senior academics publish or make claims that are not fully understood. With their years of experience, work, and trust- they can use this to support claims rather than rigorous scientific evidence…thus, if he HAS found something, but is unable to generate proof … he may feel that his reputation can carry this claim. However, point (2), is that perhaps he's the scape goat…. maybe they have found something, and perhaps they're using Latchezar Filipov as a fall guy to distract (as you mentioned several minutes prior to this story), the public of what's really going on!

    However, I do feel it's a bit odd that a man, who's career is highly dependent on his reputation to succeed, to come out with NO evidence and make sure an odd statement… that's an automatic flush!

  • brendancassidy

    Not sure if you were alreadyu aware of this, but I found a website for the crop circle dialog project. Thought you might be interested. It seems a little sketchy, but there seem to be a lot of scientists involved. Not quite sure what to make of their “interpreter” http://www.ourplanet.cc/

  • Tikki

    After listening to this portion of the podcast, I went to check out her youtube channel. Her videos are very interesting, however, I'm curious to know if you folks at MU have been following the recent events that have been happening to her.

    She's been having a lot of trouble with these videos, hackers, and youtube copyright laws… apparently a person has been setting up fake accounts pretending to be her. She's also being slapped with, i guess lawsuits, saying that she has copied these videos. the video she has most recently posted explains the troubles she's been going through trying to document these incidents…

    http://www.youtube.com/user/seeingUFOsPA#p/u/0/…

    Is this known to happen to those who post UFO sightings? I don't know much about the UFO watcher community… but it gives me the hebbie gibbies, and makes me believe her sightings a bit more.

    I hope you get her on your show. I'd love to hear her story and how she's doing!

  • Tikki

    So much to say while I'm going through this podcast!

    I wanted to comment on the Latchezar Filipov segment.

    I think a great point was brought up about context and media… the media is known for misleading the public about research. One simple comment, fact, idea found/published/presented can be taken by the media and spun a different way. I would imagine that this may be the very case. The media, or a source could have gotten a hold of something as simple as a line or two about his research, and spun it into this.

    However, I'd like to think there are some other options.

    The world of academia is a difficult place. Your career is based on your significant and relevant research findings…this leads into two poitns. (1) Latchezar Filipov maybe using his reputation as a source of credible evidence. This often happens when senior academics publish or make claims that are not fully understood. With their years of experience, work, and trust- they can use this to support claims rather than rigorous scientific evidence…thus, if he HAS found something, but is unable to generate proof … he may feel that his reputation can carry this claim. However, point (2), is that perhaps he's the scape goat…. maybe they have found something, and perhaps they're using Latchezar Filipov as a fall guy to distract (as you mentioned several minutes prior to this story), the public of what's really going on!

    However, I do feel it's a bit odd that a man, who's career is highly dependent on his reputation to succeed, to come out with NO evidence and make sure an odd statement… that's an automatic flush!

  • brendancassidy

    Not sure if you were alreadyu aware of this, but I found a website for the crop circle dialog project. Thought you might be interested. It seems a little sketchy, but there seem to be a lot of scientists involved. Not quite sure what to make of their “interpreter” http://www.ourplanet.cc/

  • http://www.derekmartin.ca/ Derek Martin

    Odd — the 2 night vision videos have been taken down due to a “copyright” claim by a MUFON investigator, and youtube says Alison Kruse's “seeingUFOsPA” account has been suspended.

  • http://mysteriousuniverse.org Benjamin Grundy

    Check the show notes for Episode 302. The MUFON accounts are fake. MUFON have already released an official statement regarding this, and Alison has an alternative page up for the time being. Oh, we also interviewed her on episode 302 ;)

  • lo_fye

    Odd — the 2 night vision videos have been taken down due to a “copyright” claim by a MUFON investigator, and youtube says Alison Kruse's “seeingUFOsPA” account has been suspended.

  • http://mysteriousuniverse.org Benjamin Grundy

    Check the show notes for Episode 302. The MUFON accounts are fake. MUFON have already released an official statement regarding this, and Alison has an alternative page up for the time being. Oh, we also interviewed her on episode 302 ;)

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  • GG

    The triangle lights you talk about I have seen them… I lived in Eugene, Oregon USA and after a long day of camping with kids, I decided (with another friend) to watch the stars and see how many shooting stars we could see. We were on a camping trip with the YMCA as part of the staff, and you can imagine a day with kids can tucker you out. We just wanted to relax. Mind you the campground had no light pollution as we were far from any city. The sky was brilliant and dazzling, I swear we could see every star in the galaxy. We saw a few shooting stars, then there was a glowing light… i can’t remember if it was red or yellow but it was there. just coming up from the left in the sky. Then two more light appeared and there was a perfect triangle moving across the sky. It was obvious they were three separate lights, because you could see the stars beyond the moving lights. And there was no noise, the lights seemed very far in the sky. But we watched them move from the left over the sky and down beyond the horizon line, laying in the grass in the open valley.

    After sitting in awe… we both got the odd feeling we were being watched. Not sure by what but we heard a the trees rustling to the left of us at the far end of the grass. We thought we saw a pair of yellow eyes, but we couldn’t be certain. So without showing fear, we calmly stood up and walked back to the kitchen area was to join the rest of the staff, trying to shake off the chills running down our backs. thanks, GG Florida

  • Doctornamtab

    So I speak Spanish and your first UFO story has a witness named Daniel Baboso. This basically translates to Danny Dumbass. Sorry but it may be a hoax or just a nickname.