Episode 417 – Mysterious Universe

Oct 15th in Podcasts by

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Nick Redfern joins us to discuss his new book Final Events and the mysterious group known as the “Collins Elite”.

This highly covert think tank has influenced official US UFO policy for decades and is convinced that at the core of the UFO phenomenon are demons hell bent on consuming the souls of mankind.

Also featured are tales of Jinn from Malaysia, and the infamous Spottsville Monster.

Show notes, books, and music after the jump.

Nick Redfern – Final Events

Nick Redfern

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Strange Signal from Alien Planet

Nocturnal Attacks in Africa

Woman Disappears

Djinns not Gins

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Four legged rugby ball

Altamaha-ha

Cryptid Reports

The Spottsville Monster

Music

Lucky ShinerGold Panda
“Snow & Taxis” (mp3)
from “Lucky Shiner”
(Ghostly International)

Buy at Napster
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Johnny – Jamrock Dubstep via earmilk

TwentytenKalabi
“Deep Red Wine” (mp3)
from “Twentyten”
(Mareld)

Buy at Amazon MP3
More On This Album

The Gospel Quartet – We Need A Lot More Jesus via WMFU

Kartell – Disco, La Jeunesse Retrouve via Night Drive

Final Track – Regular Show

Lykke Li – Little Bit via JP’s Blog

Booka Shade – Teenage Spaceman (Sei A Bass Remix) via Fix Up

Phaeleh – Afterglow feat. Soundmouse via Plugged Not Thugged

The Inspirational Gospel Singers – The Same Thing It Took via soul sides

 
  • Noshot

    I definitely get the feeling that there is something planned about the continual release of superhero movies. Not sure if its a case of indoctrinating the human race to the idea of fighting against outside forces OR to the idea of having super powers in the first place. If the powers (the real ones) of the world were faced with a difficult dilemma of how to survive being taken over by hostile forces not from this earth, they would put in place a whole raft of measures and counter measures in order to win. What if they were stuck playing a winner take all game of poker as it were with these things, pretending to be on their side to not be destroyed but secretly needing to win so we all don’t get harvested? What if we really were the ultimate defence/resource of this world maybe of all worlds? Given the right drugs or treatment humans could become more, and so be a weapon against the outsiders that THEY know will eventually come for us. The biggest hurdle being how slow we are at new ideas and how quickly we could take up the mantle when the fight does come. What better way than to slowly seep it into popular culture that anyone can become a super hero and get the bad guys. The aliens land, ‘we come in peace’, something happens, ‘Black 12′? broadcasts world wide that the aliens are bad, all must defend planet, take the red pill. It would make a good movie. What do you think? Just putting 2 and 2 together.

  • Rhonda

    I think that this collins elite has hit it right on , i have thought this for years about aliens , black shadows , black eyed children, remember they always say they have to be invited in ? well if soul is stolen as you say , it is because that is out there and can be stolen , mine cant be stolen because it belongs to jesus , i think people are being mislead thinking these things are to help us , i think this is a BIG delusion as satan is king of himself , im sure since im a christian myself i will get badgered and made fun of , but that is okay , i know these things cant hurt me or take my soul . i love this podcast , its out there and sooo interesting and gets me through the day at work . keep up more interestings subjects , i finally am a plus memeber now !!! so neat !!!!

  • Rhonda

    I think that this collins elite has hit it right on , i have thought this for years about aliens , black shadows , black eyed children, remember they always say they have to be invited in ? well if soul is stolen as you say , it is because that is out there and can be stolen , mine cant be stolen because it belongs to jesus , i think people are being mislead thinking these things are to help us , i think this is a BIG delusion as satan is king of himself , im sure since im a christian myself i will get badgered and made fun of , but that is okay , i know these things cant hurt me or take my soul . i love this podcast , its out there and sooo interesting and gets me through the day at work . keep up more interestings subjects , i finally am a plus memeber now !!! so neat !!!!

  • Mark

    No offense to Nick Redfern, and I am sure he had nothing to do with it, but that book cover is awful. How anybody can pick this up in a bookstore and take it seriously with that cover? It’s too bad too, because I enjoyed your interview with him and he sounds fairly credible.

  • Mark

    No offense to Nick Redfern, and I am sure he had nothing to do with it, but that book cover is awful. How anybody can pick this up in a bookstore and take it seriously with that cover? It’s too bad too, because I enjoyed your interview with him and he sounds fairly credible.

  • http://mysteriousuniverse.org Benjamin Grundy

    It seems the world of the paranormal in general is sorely lacking an eye for design. 90% of the books we have in our MU library, I just shake my head at the covers. But it goes without saying… “You can’t judge a book by its cover” :)

  • M.R.Fulsom

    Yes I totally agree with that caller – you guys soooo must be Aliens!

    I have always said your voices are like ‘crack’ and instantly additive!
    Think of it people always say they ‘really’ miss your shows?

    They listen and then actually start paying for it – of alll the shows online how many shows actually even get paid subscribers? hmmm
    What about going live?
    Where’s the Video’s?
    Whay to many unanswered questions….need to do a MU on you two! lol

  • M.R.Fulsom

    Totally agree – seriously how hard is it to find a graphic designer? IF money is an issue go to a college – get an instructor to turn it into a class design project….the kid gets credit of designing a book cover! Great for anyones Graphic Arts resumé.

    I won’t buy any UFO book that calls it a UFO book. People are too weird to you when you do…

  • MacGyver

    I’m thirsty Aaron…but think I will have to wait some time for my coke drink. If disclosure happens on a hot summers days please provide us with a cold can or some cubed ice. Look forward to holding the can up and saying “Cheers”. I am thinking of buying shares in a major soft drink manufacturer so will be rich and amazed at the same time. Love the show, love the banter, keep up the good work.

  • Thales

    I am of similar mind Rhonda. I have speculated thoughts similar to those discussed by Mr. Redfern for years as well. I don’t think it is so much a matter of the Collins Elite conforming the alien/UFO phenomena to their religious ideologies but rather everything about the paranormal phenomena of “extraterrestrial contact” and the UFO phenomena fits into the abilities and motivations of demons.

    The idea of Judeo-Christian demons are not the archaic “dark-age” stereotype it seems the hosts of MU conceive them as. Christianity understands demons not as physical beasts with horns and pitchforks, but rather as Powers and Principalities. This means that they are more like disembodied intelligences which are far superior in intelect and knowledge than human beings. Demons are non-human, non-physical entities that seek the ruin of mankind through all manner of creative deceptions and lies. Demons, in all their guises, want us to think they are here for our benefit, to enlighten us and make us more than what we are, but all they care about is the destruction of our bodies and soul.

    To answer the question of why the demons would masquerade as extra-terrestrial aliens or high tech UFO’s makes perfect sense in our high tech age. The devil and demons do not want themselves revealed, for the Devil wants nothing more than for people to think he doesn’t exist because the logical conclusion would be that, if the Devil exists then surely there is a spirit realm and there surely is a God and it gives great validation to religion.

    What I want anyone to come away with from this is that demons shouldn’t be thought of as some kind of mythical old creature to explain all bad things; this is never what Judaism and Christianity believed. Demons, though from the spiritual dimension, are very real entities, very deceptive, can be manifested into the physical world by those with that intention, and do their greatest damage through ideas, and influencing people with ideas contrary to morality, regard for fellow man, and regard for a good God.

  • Tracy

    After listening to the show on this subject, one of the hosts asked the question that was more common than he may have thought. The question — What makes Christianity the primary religion where it shadows all others? This question is easier to answer than one might think. But before I do, I like to say that I agree with the demon/alien hypothesis 100%. Like Darwinism, the space alien theory will soon to be false ideology that will fall into the dark dungeons of all failed hypotheses.

    Now back to the question about Christianity being the religion the trumps all other religions. Quite simply, Christianity has its faith firmly resting on the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Without his resurrection, there would be no Christianity, a farce of a religion. No other world religion has a central figure who has done was Jesus has done. No other prophet had disciples that were so loyal that they died a martyrs death, after they denied knowing him during his crucifixion. What did they see after the crucifixion the changed their minds, perhaps the resurrected Jesus!!??

  • Anonymous

    Excellent show. Nick Redfern is awesome and you guys did a great job of interviewing him.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/QQ4O3PKE2CNFXV66MZEFGQ5C2M Leaf

    I don’t follow the reasoning here. Just because the Jesus was (exclusively) resurrected…how does that make Christianity the kingpin of world religions?

    I think the more accurate and likely answer is that Christianity is the predominate religion of the Western World ( Europe and the US) and the Western World , especially the US, is the main force running the planet these days, so naturally along with Coca Cola, Nike and MacDonald’s you get Jesus.