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Episode 902 – Mysterious Universe

Sociologist Dr. Robert E. Bartholomew joins us this week to discuss the research in his new book “Champ: A Social History of America’s Loch Ness Monster”. With hundreds of sightings dating back centuries, the monster of Lake Champlain has one of the richest and most fascinating histories in all of Cryptozoology.

We also feature the latest science headlines of the week with new breakthroughs in anti-ageing research and the structure of the universe, Italian UFO waves, and Flo Rida riding a horse, wearing scrubs, while smoking a cigar.

Read on for show notes, music, and Lake Monsters.

Dr. Robert E. Bartholomew

A Social History of Americas Loch Ness Monster



Modafinil – the time-shifting drug

Harvard scientists reverse the ageing process in mice – now for humans

Physicists Find Evidence That The Universe Is A ‘Giant Brain’

The day UFOs hovered over Fiorentina’s Stadio Artemio Franchi

What’s the weirdest thing you’ve ever witnessed that you can’t explain to this day?

Wrangler Launches First Pair Of Moisturising Jeans

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Detailed Ufo case: Florence, Italy 1954

The 1954 Cennina Landing and Encounter with Humanoids

1954 French UFO Humanoid Encounters

It’s been almost 10 years and I still can’t stop thinking about it…

Mysterious cables (or threads) hanging from the sky

Cables from the Sky

Darkness Abides: A Tour of Haunted Structures


At Dawn We Rage – Dreams In Indica via Welikeit.indie

xxyyxx – Backroom 8 via The Mahogany Blog

Moonbase Commander – Colours Come Out via Circular Key

Broke For Free – Budding via Dingus

Psymbionic – Space Monkey (Psymbionic Remix) via Bwomp Beats!

Audiojack – Overtone (Original) via Sydney Be Heard

Ifan Dafydd – Celwydd via We Are Skitzo

Ta-ku – Night 6 – Indie Shuffle

Broke For Free – 942 Miles via EARMILK

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  • Re. this ‘wonder drug’ of yours, I’m skeptical of ANY claim promising nothing but benefits.

    As a designer, one of the things I was forced to learn –the HARD way– is that whenever you gain something, you win something in return.

    There just might be a need extending beyond the biological to why we need to sleep & visit the dream world.

  • PS: THIS is better than a pair of moisturizing jeans:

  • Listening to the Modafinil report while working out and wondering how muscles would recover without sleep?

  • Darri Donnelly

    Great interview with Robert Bartholemew guys. His idea that belief in these sorts of phenomenon helps reinforce the conviction that science might be wrong about religion, or wrong about life after death seems spot on. It fits right into a running theme on the show about how science has only uncovered a tiny part of the whole, and may never have a complete understanding.

    As an aside, it’s worth looking at the wikipedia article on terror management theory ( which makes the claim that people and societies form beliefs in order to make sense of their own mortality / stave off their fear of death. I can see how this might apply to Lake Champlain type phenomenon, if we understand that people feel that science reinforces their fear of death (it offers no promise of immortality), so form beliefs that undermine science as a result.

    One more thing worth mentioning is how people are naturally inclined to discern some sort of threat in any ambiguous scene, like a weird looking log on a lake, or a shape in the gloom, since there’s an evolutionary advantage in avoiding potential danger. This might explain 99% of sightings, but it doesn’t explain away the amazing account of the guy who saw the creature up close twenty feet away, its neck muscles moving. Yikes!

  • Candiruphobe

    It was used by a lot of Olympian’s and got banned by the IOC. Doesn’t necessarily mean that it helped with recovery, but at least it didn’t substantially negatively impact them either (otherwise they wouldn’t have been using it).

  • DropChris

    You guys put an amazing amount of work into these episodes. Music, production, etc… Thanks!

  • Great show, loved the interview and wish more people were like Dr Bartholemew when dipping into the unkown.

  • vardahil

    Modafinil has been (illegally) tested on French troops during the 1st Gulf war. It is still unclear, but it is believed here it played a part in causing the “Gulf war syndrome”. I would be really cautious with this pharmaceutical “miracle”.

  • I absolutely love the cover of the book. Champ looks cute!

  • At about 14 minutes in you hear some creepy humming.. You probably shouldn’t do that ^^
    Adore the show by the way.

  • Please let me know the name of the song at the end of the non-plus version of the show. it’s about 1:28:20 into the show. I can’t get the song out of my head and I can’t find it in the links, so I have just been playing it over and over from the end of the show! Hah! Thanks!

  • Nevermind. The song at the end is Float (RAC Remix) by Pacific Air. There is no link to it in your 902 page. So, here it is:

  • love this podcast this week ! best podcasts outthere .

  • parker shultz

    Great site guys and great show.
    The interview about champ was interesting but I wish the author or authors of these books actually had a close up sighting of the subject in question.then they would drop all this it’s a sturgeon crap.
    My wife and I had a sighting of Ogopogo the Canadian lake monster in1992 that is from okanogan lake in British Columbia.
    When you see an actual animal there is no mistake it’s not a rouge wave or a sturgeon it’s a living animate animal of great size and weight pushing through the water like a submarine 25. To 35 feet in length and weighing 1 or 2 tons.
    My wife saw its flipper that came out of the water when it rolled right into deeper water the flipper was about 3 feet long “not a fin of a sturgeon” hitherto skin was dark green black like an orca whale.

    It’s really too bad that we don’t have someone writing about this subject who is a first hand whitness…then we could can all the assumption .when you see the real thing there is no doubt.